The fact is that I don't have experience and I don't know much about Visual Composer and Divi and Beaver builder but I just don't like them, in general, So for that reason, I will not criticize those but the rest I will.
>> But I have a lot of experience with - Thrive page builder and Elementor PRO and Optimize press 2 and op3 ( surprisingly as well, even if it's not fully released yet ) So maybe somebody will be interested about op3. So let's dig in
At the end of this post, I will make a final conclusion as I see it as a customer, a fan of this one-man show because Alex`s work is over all those years inspiration for me and so on ... and all those fantastic new features and designs for his clients .. just extremely cool in my eye
Well, lets start:
People use thrive architect for whole funnel websites, prebuilt. Somehow well coded, quite fast and definitely usable. Those libraries of whole presets of websites are really why people buy it. You have whole funnels ( Inspire from it or not? I don't know if it's possible.. !? )
best features of Thrive? Prebuilt marketing oriented blocks ( People use for formatting their blog posts), sexy table of the contest ( widely used by its users on their websites ). It has also nice video blocks, nice prebuilt designs of those mockups and shadows and u know what I mean .. It's quite sexy and marketing and optimization oriented, which is whole energy around Thrive products. I think that Thrive company just got it.
1. Absolutely best: Funnel prebuilt-predesigned whole websites ( good to copy for MD if you had a team of 10 other people ) Ironically you can not use your header footer when you want to simply use the concrete site. So you must work in their interface to create a header ( which is a horrible experience )
2. Prebuilt blocks for formatting blog posts
3. Some of the comparison prebuilt blocks, tables id say are also useful
4. Most sexy and highly usable table of a contest for non-coders
as an Elementor Pro USER, I can say that this one is most ideal but still its a page builder. It has abnormal slow speeeeeeed. So does it has real usage? The sad fact is that is more kinda a toy, not a real gun. Theoretically, it has the best features. Everything you can imagine and don't need of course in reality but still! Most newbie-friendly interface ever, hands down, period.
One day I said to myself: O.K., what is the best web design I have seen so far on the whole internet. My answer was simple: AdvisonEvolved.com.
so I took Elementor PRO and I was able to copy it onto almost every detail. I was able to make that block where is that light grey text which is like changing on the home page. As I said onto every detail, 100 percent identical and as a newbie! Watch out me Trick is that is extremely slow. So it's not sexy even if you copy the whole design. Do you want to touch CSS? you want to make some sexy borders or underlines as MD has? You can talk to elementor staff for an ages and bombarding them on this topic, but cmooon They know when it comes to the code and CSS behind its just sh@t. ( TIP TO MAKE MONEY: Maybe one of you who is really good in CSS go out there for millions of installations of Elementor and go create simple ebook or video lessons how to make 1 primitive underline or 1px bottom border >wherever< you want with The Elementor, and I swear to you - for that 1 piece of knowledge I will pay 20 or 30 bucks and thousands of others, and I will buy such an ebook or course from you because I couldn't simply GET IT. CSS around Elementor is a real problem - solution? - big money. Period. ). But I was trying to go hard and trying even understanding selectors .. I went a little bit into studying CSS and what I found their CSS is completely fu:@d. One simply headline looks like neverending text you just give up and i think its right decision when you consider its slow anyways.
1. User-friendly interface to create simply anything, full control about every part of your websites ( header and footer creating, wtf? it's amazing, any pop-up, blog layout ( just theoretically because you can play with CSS but still )
2. It allows you to create anything really and has a big variety of prebuild stuff. Not that marketing and conversion oriented but still.
Optimize press ( 2.0, 3.0 )
British asset! LOL! The biggest failure in the history of page builders ( for me ) when it comes to their new product Optimize press 3.0
Op2 amazing, usable, integrated membership plugin was widely used and we all know why. Marketing oriented clean and fast. The number 1 priority of building sites. FAST and clean must say it 3. time...
It had amazing designs for that year and stage of internet marketing and marketer`s needs. But I think those needs did not change so there is much more what to inspire from OP2 than from anything which is shiny nowadays... Maybe some of you agree with me...
Amazing prebuilt templates for that time, and had that angle of funnels for sales pages, memberships sites, landing pages... However, interface and not possibility to end from the front. And i guess enjoying and partying of the team ( drinking, drugs and rock-n-roll ) Killed the company, not the backend interface its just my feeling, opinion and guessing I don't know why they did not accelerate when I consider here is one Alex and can beat with his progress as one guy .. million dollar company. brand and whole team .. Anyways, its none of my business
Because they stated - they spent 1000` of hours of developing a new product called op3
Before!! >They claimed: For customers which have full access and upgrade of op2 ( which I paid 300 dollars for unlimited licenses - with no real usage lol i think plus some tax and subscriptions later on to having chance to get updated product ( plugin and theme ) lol they did shit in that time since then and I just wasted money because as I said they claimed they give to those active subscribers op3 for free.
Did they give a new product for free?
The first page straight from an email I got onto a checkout page. Put card details .. I did not even see the product? Just to have a look make sure subscribe .. Baam hundred of pounds Wtf? Never saw interface features single page created in it .. Just lmao. Well, I got inside and How is it? Ofc its fail .. its years behind it's not even scratching the surface they talk about giving out some funnel plugin which can go angle of clickfunnels. It would be nice but as I said its years behind bye bye British you are done... Assholes. That CEO James or who added me on facebook before they were launching op3 now I guess as a part of their branding and marketing activities to refresh their fan base .. Assholes really .. I have chance to not pay in July, ofc I will not pay. They disappointed the whole crowd I am guessing its the fail of the years ...
To make it fast long story short.
There are many features which are usable and really smart to copy, but as I say to make it short from 1 customers view
MD, thankfully Alex did enormous progress after years of its development and Its already complete engine and for me is and always be the only theme not just the number 1 theme. When it comes to custom design WordPress site, blog... But ... Let's dig in final thoughts:
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The huge 1. MD would make great progress. If it makes bridge between people who don't want about index files ( any HTML knowledge ) as I and allows to people from cloud or somewhere implement demo pages, different ones .. as well as blog layouts ( and this is a big one ) If I had 4-8 different blog layouts ) not mentioning if I would be allowed to customize some size of boxes or something .. That be the number 1 asked feature by me. Something like a library. On another side, I understand what is MD about its speed and custom design so I don't know if something like this is possible. Because is the highest quality of code in Wordpress space. In my opinion Design as AdvisorEvolved.com and many others are the 20 thousand of dollars websites. I would value them as most valuable so ... I don't know if implementation, as I mentioned, would be ever possible.
And just new blocks but not Gutenberg style. A hack I don't even know what to click in that interface lol and I am not joking. Which is weirder I don't even want to know Again something like a library of blocks whether is for blog posts or pages would be amazing
2. I think simple membership pages, designs and interface not integrations of plugins. Anyone can install plugin he wants for securing content etc. But some certain set of pages as a preset demo for membership would be absolutely huge. And its again about some demo pages so its almost
3. And when we stayed with those prebuild pages, layouts, and blocks ... There can be anything inserted into MD because everything that is already in MD is just so super cool.
4. And one simple forum post: For noncoders and those who don't even know CSS 1px bottom borders and underlines ,ANYWHERE, guide would be super cool too
P.S. Sorry but English is not even my 2. language so ... And sorry for too much text. Its the way I think loud ...